| NATO sanctioned terrorism |
| Tuesday, 27 February 2007 | |
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Silvia Cattori: Your book about NATO's Secret Armies [1] explains that the strategy of tension [2] and the False Flag terrorism [3] imply great dangers. It teaches us how NATO - together with the intelligence services or the West European countries and the Pentagon - utilised secret armies during the Cold War, hired spies from the extreme right wing, and organized terrorist acts for which they blamed the left. With this knowledge in mind, we need to wonder what is happening today behind our backs. Daniele Ganser: It is extremely important to understand what the strategy of tension truly represents - the way it works today. This can help us clarify to present and to see more clearly to what extent it is still in operation. Silvia Cattori: To learn what it means is one thing. But it is still difficult to believe that our government could have let NATO, the West European intelligence agencies and the CIA act in such a way that could threaten their own citizens' security!
Silvia Cattori: Were these secret armies active in every Western European country? Daniele Ganser: In my research, I put forward evidence that these secret armies not only existed in Italy, but also in all Western Europe: France, Belgium, The Netherlands, Norway, Denmark, Sweden, Finland, Turkey, Spain, Portugal, Austria, Switzerland, Greece, Luxembourg and Germany. At first, we thought that there existed only one guerrilla-structured organization, and therefore, that all these secret armies had participated in the strategy of tension, and therefore, in terrorist acts. However, it is important to know that not all these secret armies have been involved in attacks, and to understand what differentiated them. Silvia Cattori: If I understand well, these Stay Behind groups, whose original goal was to be prepared for a Soviet invasion, were deviated from that goal and reorganised to defeat the left. From that, it is difficult to understand why the left political parties have not investigated or denounced this earlier. Daniele Ganser: When we take the case of Italy, it appears that every time that the communist party has interviewed the government to find an explanation about the secret army that was operating in this country under the coded name of Gladio [6], there was never any answer, stating that it was a 'state secret'. It wasn't until 1990 that [Italian Prime Minister] Giulio Andreotti [7] recognised the existence of Gladio and its direct links with NATO, the CIA, and M16 [8]. It is also during that time that judge Felice Casson was able to prove that the true author of the bombing in Peteano in 1972, which had shocked Italy and had been attributed up to that moment to the extreme left militants, was Vincenzo Vinciguerra, linked to 'Ordine Nuovo', an extreme right wing group. Vinciguerra avoided blame for the bombing in Peteano with the help of the Italian secret services. Vinciguerra also spoke about the existence of this secret army, Gladio. He explained that during the Cold War, these clandestine acts had caused the death of women and children [9]. He also stated that this secret army, controlled by NATO, had branches all around Europe. When this information was released, there was a political crisis in Italy. And it is thanks to the investigations of judge Felice Casson that we got to know about NATO's secret armies. Silvia Cattori: What about today? Are these secret armies still active? Is it possible that secret national structures which escape the control of each state still exist? Daniele Ganser: For a historian, it is difficult to answer that question. We haven't got an official report of each country. In my books, I analyse facts that I can prove. Concerning Italy, there is a report stating that the secret Gladio army has been destroyed. About the existence of the secret army P26 in Switzerland a report was issued by the Parliament in November 1990. Therefore, these clandestine armies, which had stocked explosives in hidden places across Switzerland, have been dissolved. Silvia Cattori: Can we speculate that, after the fall of the USSR, the United States and NATO have continued to develop the strategy of tension and of the false flags on other fronts?
Silvia Cattori: These clandestine structures of NATO, created after the Second World War, to supply the European countries with a guerrilla capable of resisting the Soviet invasion, ended up serving the build-up of criminal operations against European citizens? Everything leads to the conclusion that the United States have another purpose! Daniele Ganser: You are right in raising this question. The United States were interested in political control. This political control is an essential element of Washington and London's strategy. General Geraldo Serravalle, at the head of Gladio, the Italian Stay Behind network, gives an example of this in his book. He tells us that he understood that the United States were not interested in the preparation of the guerrillas against an eventual Soviet invasion; when he saw that, what interested the CIA agents who went to the training exercises of the secret army that he was leading, was to make sure that the army worked, could control the communist militants. Their fear was that the communists took power in countries such a Greece, Italy and France. Therefore, the strategy of tension was meant to serve that purpose: to orient and influence the politics of certain Western Europe countries. Silvia Cattori: You have talked about an important emotional factor in the strategy of tension. Therefore, the terror, whose origin is vague, uncertain, the fear that it causes, all that helps to manipulate the public opinion. Are we not assisting today to the same kind of procedure? Yesterday, we fuelled the fear of communism, today aren't we fuelling the fear of Islam? Daniele Ganser: Yes, there is a very clear parallel. During the planning of the war in Iraq, it was said that Saddam Hussein had biological weapons in his possession, that there was a link between Iraq and the Al Qaeda terrorists. But none of that turned out to be true. By means of these lies, it was intended to make people believe that Muslims wanted to spread terrorism all around and that this war was necessary to fight against terrorism. However, the true reason for this war is the control of energy resources. This is due to the fact that the geology, the richness in gas and oil, are concentrated in the Muslim countries. He who wants to monopolize them, must hide behind this type of manipulations. Silvia Cattori: So, these clandestine structures might well have been dissolved, but the strategy of tension continues? Daniele Ganser: Exactly. The structures might have been dissolved, and other ones could have been formed. It is important to explain how, in the strategy of tension, the tactic and manipulation work. None of that is legal. But, for the governments, it is easier to manipulate people than to tell them that they are trying to get hold of somebody else's oil. Still, not all these attacks arise from the strategy of tension. But it is difficult to know which are the manipulated attacks. Even those who know the amount of attacks that have been manipulated by the governments to discredit a political enemy can be confronted by a psychological obstacle. After every bombing, people are afraid, they feel confused. It is very difficult to accept the idea that the strategy of tension, the strategy of false flag, is a reality. It is easier to accept the manipulation and to say: "I have kept myself informed for 30 years, and I have never heard about these criminal armies. The Muslims are attacking us; this is why we fight against them." Silvia Cattori: Since 2001, the European Union has created anti-terrorist measures. Afterwards, it has been revealed that these measures have allowed the CIA to kidnap people, to move them to secret places and torture them. Have the European states become a sort of hostages to their submission to the United States? Daniele Ganser: The European countries have had quite a weak attitude concerning the United States after the attacks on September 11th, 2001. After having confirmed that the secret prisons were illegal, they let them continue. The same happened with the prisoners in Guantanamo. Many voices stood up in Europe to say: "The prisoners cannot be deprived of a lawyer or defence." When Mrs. Angela Merkel mentioned this question, the United States clearly suggested that Germany was involved in Iraq, that its secret services had contributed to prepare this war and therefore they must shut up. Silvia Cattori: Within this context, where there are still many unclear areas, what type of security can NATO give to the people it is supposed to protect if it allows the secret services to manipulate in this way? Daniele Ganser: Concerning the terrorist attacks carried out by the secret armies of the Gladio network during the Cold War, it is important that we are able to clearly determine what is the real involvement of NATO in this, to know what really happened. Are these isolated acts secretly organised by NATO? Until this day, NATO refuses to talk about the strategy of tension and terrorism during the Cold War. NATO refuses to answer all questions related to Gladio. Silvia Cattori: How much does our current government know today about the strategy of tension ? Can they just let the war-doers foment coups d'état, kidnap and torture people without reacting? Have they any means to stop these criminal activities? Daniele Ganser: I do not know. As an historian, I observe and take notes. As a political adviser, I always say that one must never give in to the manipulations that try to induce fear and to make people believe that the "terrorists" are always Muslims; I say that this is about a struggle for controlling the energy resources; that some means of surviving the lack of energy must be found without needing to go to a militarization. Problems cannot be solved in this way; they only become worse. Silvia Cattori: It is almost as if none of the structures created want to doubt an official version, like 9/11, about which you have co-written with other intellectuals. Is it possible that they let themselves be manipulated by the lack of information organized by the ones who organize the strategy of the tension and the false flags?
Silvia Cattori: Doesn't this way of thinking and of covering up the lies that arise from the strategy of tension make everyone an accomplice of the crimes that it causes? To start with the journalists and the political parties? Daniele Ganser: I personally think that everyone - journalists, professors, politicians - must think about the implications of the strategy of tension and the false flag. Here we are, indeed, in presence of phenomena that escape from every kind of agreement. That is why, every time that there are terrorist attacks, we must ask questions and try to understand what that implies. It is only on the day that we officially admit that the false flags are a reality, that it will be possible for us to create a list of the false flags that took place in history and to agree upon what should be done. Endnotes [1] Nato's secret Armies: Terrorism in Western Europe par Daniele Ganser, preface by John Prados. Frank Cass ed., 2005. ISBN 07146850032005 [2] It is after the attack in Piazza Fontana in Milano in 1969 that the term strategy of tension was heard for the first time. [3] False flag operations is the expression used to talk about terrorist acts, conducted secretly by governments or organizations, and which are made to be seen as having been conducted by somebody else. [4] « Stay-behind : les réseaux d'ingérence américains » (« the American interfering networks ») par Thierry Meyssan, Réseau Voltaire, August 20th, 2001. [5] Stay behind is the name given to the clandestine structures trained to conduct a partisans' war. [6] Gladio designates the group of European secret armies that were under the guidance of the CIA. [7] President of the Council of Ministers, member of the Christian Democracy. [8] « Rapport Andreotti sur l'Opération Gladio » ("Andreotti Report about the Gladio Operation") February 26th, 1991, Réseau Voltaire's library. [9] « 1980 : carnage à Bologne, 85 morts » (« 1980 :bloodshed in Bologne, 85 deaths ») Réseau Voltaire, March 12th, 2004. [10] « La France autorise l'action des services US sur son territoire » (France authorises the US services to act on its territory ») by Thierry Meyssan, Réseau Voltaire, 8 mars 2004. [11] LavonAffair, from the name of the Israeli minister of Defense who had to quit his work when Mossad was found to have been involved in these criminal acts. [12] See : « Odeurs de pétrole à la Maison-Blanche » (Smell of oil in the White House), Réseau Voltaire, Dec. 14 , 2001. « Les ombres du rapport Cheney » (the shadows of the Cheney rapport) by Arthur Lepic, March 30, 2004. « Le déplacement du pouvoir pétrolier » (the transfer of the power of oil) by Arthur Lepic, may 10th, 2004. « Dick Cheney, le pic pétrolier et le compte à rebours final » (Dick Cheney, the iol peak and the final downcount") by Kjell Aleklett, March 9, 2005.« L'adaptation économique à la raréfaction du pétrole » (the economic adaptation to the rarefaction of oil) by Thierry Meyssan, June 9th, 2005. |